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Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #1995 on: May 24, 2010, 06:31:20 pm »
heyyyyy,does anybody know where i can get CHEM O/N 06 paper without the blank questions? X(

I dunno wat blank ques r u talking abt

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« Reply #1996 on: May 24, 2010, 06:31:59 pm »
heyyyyy,does anybody know where i can get CHEM O/N 06 paper without the blank questions? X(

lol wtf is that xD  ;D ;D
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« Reply #1997 on: May 24, 2010, 06:32:23 pm »
ok u have to go with colorless, because Chlorine is not acidic or basic. the only option with colorless...
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Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #1998 on: May 24, 2010, 06:32:33 pm »
Thanks, what about Q13??


Ok remember when concentrated NaCl is electrolyzed:
First the solution contains Na+ Cl- and H+ and OH- (from water). The positive inos go to the cathode, and negative ions to the anode.

At the CATHODE
the H+ ions accept electrons, since it is less reactive than Na (always elements which is more reactive 'likes' to stay in the ionic form)
2H+  +  2e-  ---> H2

At the ANODE
the Cl- ions give up the electrons more readily than the OH- ions do.
2Cl-  -->  Cl2  +  2e-

what left in the solution is Na+ and OH- which combine to form NaOH

in your ques ..is 'D' .. the indicator solution turns blue at -ve as NaOH is produced .. Chlorine doesnt  show any change in presence of an indicator solution ;)

jus understand the concept ..



see in this question u hav to act smart .. look at the options .. u now kno tht NaOH is produced so the indicator turns blue ..there are two options with 'bule/purple' A and B .. now see A .. at -ve 'red' is given which is not possible because no acid it produced during the reaction so u r left with D .. ;)

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Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #1999 on: May 24, 2010, 06:33:08 pm »

Ok remember when concentrated NaCl is electrolyzed:
First the solution contains Na+ Cl- and H+ and OH- (from water). The positive inos go to the cathode, and negative ions to the anode.

At the CATHODE
the H+ ions accept electrons, since it is less reactive than Na (always elements which is more reactive 'likes' to stay in the ionic form)
2H+  +  2e-  ---> H2

At the ANODE
the Cl- ions give up the electrons more readily than the OH- ions do.
2Cl-  -->  Cl2  +  2e-

what left in the solution is Na+ and OH- which combine to form NaOH

in your ques ..is 'D' .. the indicator solution turns blue at -ve as NaOH is produced .. Chlorine doesnt  show any change in presence of an indicator solution ;)

jus understand the concept ..



see in this question u hav to act smart .. look at the options .. u now kno tht NaOH is produced so the indicator turns blue ..there are two options with 'bule/purple' A and B .. now see A .. at -ve 'red' is given which is not possible because no acid it produced during the reaction so u r left with D .. ;)


 u said H2 goes to cathode , then y u said sodium hydroxide changes indicator to blue when it is at the bottom not even close to the +ve electrode
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Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2000 on: May 24, 2010, 06:33:19 pm »
Quote
for anions:
someone -sulphate
only-hydroxide(gives oxygen on oxidation)
nice-nitrate
cleans-chloride
broken -bromide
items-iodide


Are you sure??? I've always come across series that put nitrate above hydroxide.

Plus one final thing people, in June 2000, shouldn't question 30 be C??? (Paper 1 Chemistry)

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Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2001 on: May 24, 2010, 06:33:35 pm »
I dunno wat blank ques r u talking abt

... there .. blank questions :P
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Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2002 on: May 24, 2010, 06:34:29 pm »

 u said H2 goes to cathode , then y u said sodium hydroxide changes indicator to blue when it is at the bottom not even close to the +ve electrode

see in this question u hav to act smart .. look at the options .. u now kno tht NaOH is produced so the indicator turns blue ..there are two options with 'bule/purple' A and B .. now see A .. at -ve 'red' is given which is not possible because no acid it produced during the reaction so u r left with D .. ;)

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« Reply #2003 on: May 24, 2010, 06:35:15 pm »
So what do u want us to do? Make a new question paper ;D xD :P
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Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2004 on: May 24, 2010, 06:35:45 pm »
see in this question u hav to act smart .. look at the options .. u now kno tht NaOH is produced so the indicator turns blue ..there are two options with 'bule/purple' A and B .. now see A .. at -ve 'red' is given which is not possible because no acid it produced during the reaction so u r left with D .. ;)


wait isn't hydrgoen an acidic gas  ???
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Re: CHEM AND BIO HELP AND TIPS HERE
« Reply #2005 on: May 24, 2010, 06:36:00 pm »

Are you sure??? I've always come across series that put nitrate above hydroxide.

Plus one final thing people, in June 2000, shouldn't question 30 be C??? (Paper 1 Chemistry)

OOPS! THANKS, ITS ABOVE HYDROXIDE
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« Reply #2007 on: May 24, 2010, 06:40:11 pm »
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« Reply #2008 on: May 24, 2010, 06:40:58 pm »
wait isn't hydrgoen an acidic gas  ???

yes but it has to dissociate with water to give H+ to show its acidity ..

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« Reply #2009 on: May 24, 2010, 06:41:46 pm »
tayeeb ma it turns to be an ion hence is ACIDIC!!

I dont know ur question but ur right and VIN is right in ur last posts
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