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Israel- What's so evil?
minicooper:
Do you think Israel should send them rockets too? They don't seem short on that. And they don't use it for 'self-defence'. They shoot into civilian areas in Ashkelon and Sderot, from land given them for peace.
If a person attacks you with a knife, do you give him a gun 'just to make it fair'? Or do you defend yourself?
Also, on the flotilla, the activists did have weapons. Which was the problem. If they had said: okay, search the boat for bombs and missiles, it's fine, we don't want to kill you all. Israel wouyld have searched the boat, and delivered the aid. But no, the activists had to storm them and throw them overboard and pelt them with metal rods. Doesn't sound like self defence to me.
astarmathsandphysics:
Ever heard about asymetric warfare?
If Israel gave away half their weapons to the palestinians they could fight like Israel.
At the moment anyway Israel doesnt take great pains to avoid collateral damage, which results in about 10 times more palestinians being killed in any exchange of fire.
minicooper:
--- Quote ---about 10 times more palestinians being killed
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Validate please.
Neither does Hamas, their government, take great pains to prevent their own people from being collateral damage, firing from schools and mosques.
Maybe it would be smart on the side of Hamas not to make war and rather find a peaceful way of negotiating, if they have such a disadvantage. They would indeed appear more the victim if they didn't attack Israeli civilians.
http://www.peacewithrealism.org/headline/admit.htm
--- Quote ---Previously, the latest air strike on the Gaza Strip hit Bureij refugee camp in central Gaza late Friday night, killing two men.
The Al-Quds Brigade, the armed wing of the Islamic Jihad, confirmed that one of the men, Emad Abu Abda, was their member. The other man's identity and possible affiliations were not immediately known.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/08/201182064926150828.html
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Israel, in targeting a refugee camp managed to take out only two people!
Meanwhile,
--- Quote ---ISA officials noted the number of terror attacks originating in the Hamas-ruled Gaza rose to 135, compared to just 30 originating in Israeli-administered Judea and Samaria. Meanwhile, six terror attacks originated in Jerusalem, compared to eight in July.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/147563
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The rockets from Hamas are terror attacks, they aren't attacks on the army.
--- Quote ---The Arab truck driver who ran down 18 people and killed one last month has been charged with terrorism.
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Don't you think it would be utterly stupid of Israel to give half their weapons to an organisation that seeks only its harm?
astarmathsandphysics:
Ho am sure hamas would aim there rockets at military targets if they had more accurate rockets. Suggest Israel give them some.
minicooper:
What an idea! To give accurate rockets to a people who vows to kill the Jews:
--- Quote ---Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim).
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http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm
That would be positively suicidal! Speaking of which http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/147859.
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