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Re: Accounts p1 doubts here!
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2011, 01:03:01 am »
hey listen up
P11 of oct/nov 2009 qns 18 is same as qns 17 of P12 oct/nov 2009....but markscheme shows different answers....can anyone pls tell me the right answer?

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Re: Accounts p1 doubts here!
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2011, 02:18:57 am »
yea llol , they've made a mistake there :o ,dosent happen usually thaugh ;)
By the way i think the ans is 12000 (b) wonder hw they managed to make a mistake like that , specially in published marking scheme  :o  ::)

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Re: Accounts p1 doubts here!
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2011, 02:20:33 am »
yea llol , they've made a mistake there :o ,dosent happen usually thaugh ;)
By the way i think the ans is 12000 (b) wonder hw they managed to make a mistake like that , specially in published marking scheme  :o  ::)


yeah i just did the paper and i was like what...y r the answers different and the qns same....even i think its 12000!
and again thank u alot dasith

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Re: Accounts p1 doubts here!
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2011, 03:07:46 am »
is it just me or is the variants in 2010 both m/j and o/n p1 accounts the same?
if it is then im not doing them again now!

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Re: Accounts p1 doubts here!
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2011, 04:47:35 am »
ok...these are my final doubts;
1.m/j 2009 qns 8,9,16,19 and 30.
2.o/n 2009 p11 qns 9,14,16,23 and 30.
3.2010 m/j p12 qns 10,29 and 27
4.o/n 2010 p11 qns 1 and 8



i dont get how to do suspense a/c?can u explain?
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Accounts p1 doubts here!
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2011, 04:51:01 am »
ok...these are my final doubts;
1.m/j 2009 qns 8,9,16,19 and 30.
2.o/n 2009 p11 qns 9,14,16,23 and 30.
3.2010 m/j p12 qns 10,29 and 27
4.o/n 2010 p11 qns 1 and 8



i dont get how to do suspense a/c?can u explain?
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

previous doubts answeres lol


9.m/j 2004 qns
6, reducing balance is when u calculate on book value rather than original cost
so its depreciation @ 2001 march is 240000 x 30/100=72
& 2002 march its   (240- 72 ) x 30 /100 = 50.4


12,hmm all revenue expenditure come to P/L or trading so when this error is corrected
expences in proft & loss increases causing profits to decrease & a capital expenditure
causes assets to increse , so correcting this would decrese the assets value which was wrongly
overstated !


17,
10th jan balance of stock                  104,000
stock purchased incresed the stock so
deduct it                                  (16,000)

sales (we hav to take cost)add
15000/125x 100                              12,000

so @ 31st dece                              100,000




27,
here they say there is over absorption of 1740 compaerd with the actual
so the , budjeted overheads for 8700 hors by them would have been

1740 + 102660 =104400

so for a direct labour hour it is
104400/8700 = 12



28,
u gotta calculate for every option theve given : only option b gives the right ans:
u calcualte like
Diffeence in sales volume 1500-1000(for x) x contribution (12)=6000
''              ''        3000-2000(for y) x contribution (4)=4000
total                                                        = 10000





29,
1200+800(only production costs) /10 (budjeted units)
= 200

30,
here its just budjeted overhead/ budjeted units to get OAR

354/118 = 3 per unit

Total budjeted costs for activity is underabsorbed by 3000 , which means
budjeted costs are

360-3=357
to get units  357/3
=119






10.o/n 2004

14.

                    Capital a/c

Debit :           A         B             z                    Credit:       A           B           z

Godwill          4000      4000      4000            Balance b/d   6000        5000
                                                                  Godwill       6000       6000
balancec/d     8000      7000                        balance c/d                            4000
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Re: Accounts p1 doubts here!
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2011, 05:36:40 am »
ok...these are my final doubts;
1.m/j 2009 qns 8,9,16,19 and 30.
2.o/n 2009 p11 qns 9,14,16,23 and 30.
3.2010 m/j p12 qns 10,29 and 27
4.o/n 2010 p11 qns 1 and 8



i dont get how to do suspense a/c?can u explain?
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

hmm i'll explain about the suspence a/c , but the questions later , when i start doing past papers !! :D

suspence account is used when u have errors in the accounts of the business , which affects the trial balance , suspence & control accounts go againts the double entry principaly ! , but are perfectly logical,
its like this if total of your debit balences in  accounts exceeds credit , u Credit the suspence(here u dont find a double entry)
& when u find errors later you correct em , the way they occur (thses entries have double entry thauhg )
& after all errors are corrected supence a/c balance becomes 0 & trial balance balances ! , then u close the suspence a/c.

got it ? read the book it explains most of it , & do some questions on them & u'll understand :D
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Re: Accounts p1 doubts here!
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2011, 01:00:58 pm »
Rest of the answeres ;D


1.m/j 2009

8,

700 discounts recieved not recorded in creditors ledger only in discounts recieved
account , which means its credited in discounts recieved but not debited
in the creditors a/c. So credit side balances are higher by 700 !
& the next entry also causes the credit side to be higher by 1000
so our trial balance shows an increase in credit side by 1000 , we enter
the balancing figure on debit as suspence (i.e 1700 debit),since both errors increase credit balance.


9,
here the ans is C !! , lol @ least thats wat i get :S , hmm i got it like
this since the 63000 in control ac is correct & only amount taken to suspence is
wrong> so only suspence shuld be corrected not the control a/c :o
wat did u get ?? as the ans !


16,

Debtors control a/c

Dr:                                                     Cr:

Balance b/d                      225000            Balance b/d  2800
Creditors control transfer        3200                
Transfer to creditors contr..    2800
                                                           balance c/d 228200


19,

many ways of doing the question , simplest way is , if u can take sales as x

& u knw that

Sales-cost of sales - expences = profit

X-(800-200) - 400 = 20% of(X) (i.e net profit %)
x-600-400=0.2X
x-0.2x=1000
0.8x=1000
x=1250 got it ?

or u could draw a prift & loss & work bakwards but takes time!! )


30)
OAR as per budjeted rate = 2.2

2.2 x actual machine hours worked=budjeted costs for the machine hours worked

2.2 x 116000 =255200

Reconsiliation:

budjeted             = 255200
Add:under absorption =   5800

Actual cost incurred = 261000


2.o/n 2009 p11

9)
i.
causes the Debit side to be higher by 200 as the Bank o/d is shown as credit.
so suspence will be credited with 200 due to this

ii.
no effct to suspence or trial banlance , its an error of principal(errors not affecting
trial balance)

iii.
Debit entry of 160 enterd as 150 in purchases a/c, this causes the debit balance to be
lower & so this will require a debit entry of 10 in suspence a/c

credit 200
debit  (10)
Final  190 (credit) Opening balance in suspence


14)

Add back all interest on capital & saleries & share of profit
Then deduct the intrest on drawings . This is the exact reverse of an appropriation a/c !!

3400-900+5000+20000 =27500


16)
share holders funds is reserves + share capital
here they ask ordinary share holders funds

so its Ordinary share capital + reserves

250+320+125=695


23)
Divident yeild here is 4% i.e dividents are 4% of the share price!
& earnigs here is 0.32 out of that half are paid as dividends i.e for every 1 share

0.32/2 is paid as dividents, if we knw that the divident is 4% of total price of the
share we knw hw to find the share price right >

0.16 is 4% so wat is for 100%

0.16/0.04 x 1 = $ 4




30)

here u can see that stock increased by 3000 units.& u also knw the only thing that
causes the change in profit in marginal & absorption costing is the change
in stocks !.

In absorption costing All costs are taken when calculating closing stock , so if closing stock
is high then cost of production(as we deduct slosing stock from purchases/ cost of sales)
 goes down !& so profits are high.This increase in profits in absorption costing
was caused by the increse in stocks.

Profit increased by 19500
Stock by             3000

19500/3000 =   6.50 (fixed overhead rate )


3.

2010 m/j p12

10,

invoive of 900 not recorded , recording it would increse debtors by 900
Total Debtors are 48500 + 3600 (before correction of error)

After correction its 48500+900+3600
=53000

29.
here A is out as x breaks even @ a lower output than y
B is out too as fixed costs of x is higher than Y , x has 20 + , while y has like 10!!
C is out too because the SP of X is > than SP  of Y , (sales / ouput)
D seems to be correct because :

VC(total) of x is like 10
Average is 10/35 = 0.28

while:
VC of y is like 22
Average is 22/35 = 0.62

VC = Difference of total & FC


27.

Here we get the variable costs first:

Change in cost is     7000
change in quantity is 14000 units

so the Total varies by 7000 when output vaies by 14000
so varable costs are 7000/14000=0.5 per unit

Now substitute varable costs in the data already given to find FC!
i.e it takes 10000 x 0.5 =5000 variable costs for 10000 units
Take care there is 6000
Fc= 6000- 5000
Fc= 1000
Now u knw da FC

we can find the cost for 20000 units!

its 20000x .5 = 10000(VC)
+ FC          =  1000
 



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Re: Accounts p1 doubts here!
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2011, 06:07:48 pm »
THANK U SO MUCH DASITH!
ur a lifesaver! ;D

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Re: Accounts p1 doubts here!
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2011, 02:04:33 am »
no prob , :D :D
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Re: Accounts p1 doubts here!
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2011, 12:50:45 pm »
oct nov 2010 var.2
question 5 please

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Re: Accounts p1 doubts here!
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2011, 01:45:21 pm »
oct nov 2010 var.2
question 5 please

ok its like this

46000 is opening debtors yea ?

credit sales = 280000 (80% of total sales )
Cash to be recieved = 310,000(without discount* )

*303800/98 x 100 = 310000


so 28000 credit sales were made & we recieve cash of 310000
so debtors are increasd by 280000(credit sales ) & decreased by 310000(cash rec )

so we already had 46000 debtors

46000 + 280000 - 310000 = 16000!
got it ?
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Re: Accounts p1 doubts here!
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2011, 01:48:37 pm »
or u can of course make a debtors control account to find the closing debtors !
hope u knw wat that is ;) ;D
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Re: Accounts p1 doubts here!
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2011, 01:52:01 pm »
ya thanks got it

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Re: Accounts p1 doubts here!
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2011, 03:32:17 am »
Rest of the answers


9,
here the ans is C !! , lol @ least thats wat i get :S , hmm i got it like
this since the 63000 in control ac is correct & only amount taken to suspence is
wrong> so only suspence shuld be corrected not the control a/c :o
wat did u get ?? as the ans !
im doing it now hehe........i have no idea! :(
im flunking