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Why can equality not prevail?
Alpha:
--- Quote from: Bill Gates on December 10, 2010, 03:33:03 pm ---Yes. :P
Still, it must be because of something. Some disease or accident or something like that. Therefore, my previous argument would hold true in case of natural death too.
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People die because they have to. It isn't necessary for a third element like a disease or accident to come in between you and death. ;)
--- Quote ---Yes I used a decade. But you can compare with the previous year too. You'll see that, unless you suffered a substantial business failure (God forbid), you are better off than you were. I used a decade just because I wanted to illustrate a sample timeframe. ;)
I do not deny that poverty exists. I just claim that it is decreasing rapidly.
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I didn't deny either. We're turning round. ::)
--- Quote ---I just invalidated :P your previous arguments. Therefore, you cannot claim that. :P ::)
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How? I am not convinced. :P
--- Quote from: 0kelvin on December 12, 2010, 12:50:19 am ---The Matrix. Imagine if everything in the world, includding consciousness and self awarness, could be represented by a constant function f(x) = something.
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Can you explain further, please? :)
--- Quote from: Martin Luther King Jr on December 12, 2010, 06:50:57 am ---Inequality is essential for human kind. GOD has created us different from each other for a reason. ;)
Else everyone would have been clones of each other with the same wants. ;D
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Agreed. My stand. ;)
--- Quote ---But you can't also imagine yourself living in a world where everyone is rich, educated but lazy and waste a lot.
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Lol. ;D
What I meant was to illustrate the Yin-Yang Chinese concept: without inequality, equality doesn't exist.
--- Quote from: Martin Luther King Jr on December 12, 2010, 07:23:25 am ---Well, my dear friend, our resources on Earth are limited and inter-related. We cannot progress without being the prime reason of our colleague's failure. Even if we're not at all jealous of our colleague and are in no case competing against each other. ;)
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Pareto optimality.*
Alpha:
--- Quote from: Cleo~patra VII on December 10, 2010, 02:25:05 pm ---*ahem*
And therefore, I can conclude:
Poverty is because Bill Gates is. 8)
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By the way... ::)
The original quote is:
Poverty is because humankind is.
Poor Bill. ;D
0kelvin:
--- Quote ---The Matrix.
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In certain part of the movie Agent Smith tells that the first version of the matrix failed because the machines thought that a perfect virtual world would make all humans happy. The third version included some kind of evil vs hero variable into play, but at the same time, the whatever f(x) that should have kept the virtual world balanced, couldn't predict that at some point, the evil vs hero battle would destabilize that f(x).
Source: http://matrix.wikia.com/wiki/Matrix_betas
$tyli$h Executive:
--- Quote from: Martin Luther King Jr on December 12, 2010, 07:23:25 am ---I said you have a right. This does not mean that we must do it. ;)
You should work just enough, not in excess and not less either. There's no doubt that the whole society will prosper in this way. :)
I understand that we should acquire wealth for our own progress but if we limit ourselves to a specific height and personally take the resolution of not exceeding, even if we have the chance to do so, this will ensure the progress of the whole human kind. Not only the rich ones.
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That is definitely not a good idea. This is all I can say. ;)
Deadly_king:
--- Quote from: Cleo~patra VII on December 12, 2010, 04:16:51 pm ---Agreed. My stand. ;)
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Yupz........same point of view, I guess. ::)
--- Quote from: Cleo~patra VII on December 12, 2010, 04:16:51 pm ---Lol. ;D
What I meant was to illustrate the Yin-Yang Chinese concept: without inequality, equality doesn't exist.
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Yeah................that's certainly impossible. But it's upto us to maintain the balance. ;)
--- Quote from: Cleo~patra VII on December 12, 2010, 04:16:51 pm ---Pareto optimality.*
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I love that though I doubt it occurs in life nowadays. It has become very rare these days. :-\
But this would surely prove to be the best solution. :D
--- Quote from: Bill Gates on December 13, 2010, 07:53:22 am ---That is definitely not a good idea. This is all I can say. ;)
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Hmm..............that's your point of view. ;)
I would love to have more details about it though. :P
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