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$tyli$h Executive:
--- Quote from: SpongeBob on October 05, 2010, 06:36:05 am ---I prefer being called a cartoon ::)
India has never invaded another country. It was self sufficient.
Wow. Blame Indians for not being able to retort? The root cause of everything is the way Indians treated their guests. Athiti devo Bhava, they treated their guests like Gods and slowly things went out of hands. Indians welcomed the Jews and Parsis because they were driven out of their homes by the same "Arabs". It's not just India.
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I could not help but reply to this misleading post.
Before the arrival of Hinduism in India, most people in India were Buddhists. They were the followers of Gautama Buddha's religion.
When Hinduism emperors invaded India, they took over all the land and forced people to convert to Hinduism. Buddhism almost died away from India then.
After that, India was invaded by Muslim kings and emperors. They were successful in capturing significant portions of India. As I see it, they have shown a significant example of religious tolerance with the Hindus. If they wished, they could easily force people to convert from Hinduism to Islam back then like when Hinduism emperors forced people to convert to their religion from Buddhism. But they did not do so.
SpongeBob:
--- Quote from: Bill Gates on December 13, 2010, 08:23:43 am ---I could not help but reply to this misleading post.
Before the arrival of Hinduism in India, most people in India were Buddhists. They were the followers of Gautama Buddha's religion.
When Hinduism emperors invaded India, they took over all the land and forced people to convert to Hinduism. Buddhism almost died away from India then.
After that, India was invaded by Muslim kings and emperors. They were successful in capturing significant portions of India. As I see it, they have shown a significant example of religious tolerance with the Hindus. If they wished, they could easily force people to convert from Hinduism to Islam back then like when Hinduism emperors forced people to convert to their religion from Buddhism. But they did not do so.
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Let me clear your misconceptions.
Birth of Hinduism was way before birth of Buddhism.
India was Hindu-stan.(Birth place of Hindu-ism) I think it's clear enough. Buddhism itself is an extension of Hinduism. You've got it wrong here.
All Muslims in India and neighboring countries(then part of Hindustan) are converts or descendants of Muslim rulers. ::) Islam came to India with Muslim invaders, and everyone knows it didn't come peacefully. They could easily force people to covert.. And yes they did. I've posted an article somewhere in the previous page, read it if you have the time.
Peace.
$tyli$h Executive:
--- Quote from: SpongeBob on December 13, 2010, 09:59:54 am ---Let me clear your misconceptions.
Birth of Hinduism was way before birth of Buddhism.
India was Hindu-stan.(Birth place of Hindu-ism) I think it's clear enough. Buddhism itself is an extension of Hinduism. You've got it wrong here.
All Muslims in India and neighboring countries(then part of Hindustan) are converts or descendants of Muslim rulers. ::) Islam came to India with Muslim invaders, and everyone knows it didn't come peacefully. They could easily force people to covert.. And yes they did. I've posted an article somewhere in the previous page, read it if you have the time.
Peace.
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Allow me a chance to clear your concepts. ;) :D
I know it from my history book. I think that should be some trustable source.
What I was talking about is the time long before 'Hindustan' was named. Buddhism was the predominant religion in the place which is now called India, back then.
I already read your article. That was a radical hindu article, sorry to say. Extremely biased towards the Hindus. I will not point out each of the biasness, as that would take too much time on my part. But I would suggest you to read that article again, from a neutral perspective. ;)
--- Quote ---All Muslims in India and neighboring countries(then part of Hindustan) are converts or descendants of Muslim rulers. ::) Islam came to India with Muslim invaders, and everyone knows it didn't come peacefully. They could easily force people to covert.. And yes they did. I've posted an article somewhere in the previous page, read it if you have the time.
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Then how come >80% of people in India are Hindus and not muslims? Did the then converted muslims convert back to hinduism? ::)
Peace again. ;)
Freaked12:
India is too big to generalize.Pre dominant here would mean majority in areas where the empire had its roots eh?
Anyway Asoka and all his predecessors were all hindus right.
Asoka turned Buddhist because he got freaked out by a battle
so before buddhism got established as a major religion it was hinduism.
Hinduism began from Aryans migrating from Eurasia and therefore it is the earliest religion recorded.
Buddha itself was a hindu
or i am missing something ???
$tyli$h Executive:
--- Quote from: Requiem on December 13, 2010, 10:51:29 am --- India is too big to generalize.Pre dominant here would mean majority in areas where the empire had its roots eh?
Anyway Asoka and all his predecessors were all hindus right.
Asoka turned Buddhist because he got freaked out by a battle
so before buddhism got established as a major religion it was hinduism.
Hinduism began from Aryans migrating from Eurasia and therefore it is the earliest religion recorded.
Buddha itself was a hindu
or i am missing something ???
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Buddha was a hindu, but meditated under a tree for 7 days (' in bodh gaya') to come up with a new idea about another religion. Back then, Hindu was the predominant religion in India. The new religion which was created by Buddha was Buddhism.
Buddhism spread rapidly in India, until it became the predominant religion. Ashoka's conversion to Buddhism falls within this time span and is the main reason why Buddhism became the predominant religion in India back then.
After the battle of Kalinga, due to Ashoka's influence, Buddhism became the predominant religion of India (as opposed to hinduism before). This predominance of Buddhism in India after Kalinga battle was not due to force on part of Ashoka because it goes against the teachings of Buddhism. Long after Ashoka, Hindu emperors , attacked India (I don't remember the exact names of those emperors). They destroyed many Buddhist structures, and forced people to convert to Hinduism back again. That is why most people in India are Hindus and not Buddhists.
What I'm talking about is that, after this, Muslim emperors conquered major parts of India too. However, unlike the previous Hindu emperors, they did not force people to convert to Islam. Thus, they demonstrated significant religious tolerance there. But some statement of SpongeBob I pointed out earlier is in direct contrast to this fact.
I hope I'm clear about the timeline I'm talking about.
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