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Re: Racism in South East Asia
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My grandma had kittens.

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My grandma had kittens.

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« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2010, 06:31:27 am »
We have genetically enhance intelligence to look forward to.
Imagine having an IQ of1000000000000000000000000000000 in one easy gene treatment.

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« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2010, 06:32:31 am »
As far as racism is concerned, it is a learned trait, not inherited.

Wrong. You are stating your beliefs without evidence.
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« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2010, 08:43:32 am »
There is no biological factor behind racism. Yes, you might suggest that it's genetic (or, more properly, evolutionary) in that it was of benefit to the survival of early tribal 'proto-humans' to be instinctively distrustful of creatures who were significantly different from them, but there hasn't been ANY biological evidence that different races of human beings exist today. Of course you get stereotypes arising out cultures, appearance etc, but in the genetic level there aren't much differences from a person of African or Asian descent.


That is such a huge claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I suspect this belief has come into people because of the human genome project.  They state "All human races are 99.99 % alike, so racial differences are genetically insignificant." The proof that they claim is unfortunately no proof at all. Everybody knows that in genetics, a difference of 0.1% is an ENORMOUS difference,

Comparing all the sources it has been found that the percentage difference is 99.5% not 99.99%. This 99.9 % thing is due to source error.

But if we compare it like that,Chimpanzees are 96% to 98% similar to humans, depending on how it is calculated.

- Cats have 90% of homologous genes with humans, 82% with dogs, 80% with cows, 79% with chimpanzees, 69% with rats and 67% with mice.

- Cows are 80% genetically similar to humans

- 75% of mouse genes have equivalents in humans , 90% of the mouse genome could be lined up with a region on the human genome 99% of mouse genes turn out to have analogues in humans (source)

- The fruit fly (Drosophila) shares about 60% of its DNA with humans

- About 60% of chicken genes correspond to a similar human gene.

- Bananas share about 50% to 70 % of its DNA with humans.  (So are we bananas?)


A difference of only 0.1% therefore shows that people will have around three million base pairs in their DNA.(Keep in mind that it's about 0.5%) Yes, three million. And remember that it only takes ONE to turn an otherwise healthy human into someone who has Progeria for example. Just a single error out of more than one million base pairs prevented it from working at first. At that level, a very little can mean an awful lot.

Also Human genome project never proved that races don't exist. It proved that every human being on the planet is a human being. This point is irrefutable. You're just trying to say that because we're all the same SPECIES that there are no separate RACES. If that was the case, we'd all be one color with all the same traits...etc...etc. I don't understand why it is so hard to wrap one's mind around the fact that because you can determine differences between different populations, race is real.

Every other species on the planet has group variations WITHIN the species, yet current liberal dogma insists that human beings are an exception to this rule. As far as biology is concerned, putting human beings on a pedestal apart from other animals is about as "non scientific" as you can get.

If you dug up bones from hundreds/thousands of years ago, you could determine what the race of the skeleton was. If race isn't real, how is this possible? If science can determine this, how is there no genetic basis for race?And a dna test can determine someone’s racial ancestry even though race doesn't exist? Lol

Race is a "social construct" in the sense that, the classification is man made - as are all classifications. One can argue gender does not exist on the same ground one argues race does not exist - you won't get far with either. Race is real, to the extent any other genetic classification is real.

Bear in mind that race is perhaps the most polarizing and sensitive issue in the scientific community today and as such, it's very difficult for people in academia to present their unfettered opinion on the subject without serious repercussions (i.e., the Dr. James Watson controversy surrounding his views on Africa).

Most physical anthropologists, population geneticists, behavior geneticists, and psychologists who wish to keep their reputations untarnished understand that they have to do the ceremonial "race denial" at the beginning of their published works involving race; if they fail to do this, they face mass condemnation (as James Watson did). However, there do exist scientists who won't be intimated by the political climate and will openly state the biological validity of race. These people aren't crazed lunatics on the fringes of the scientific establishment, but rather published/peer-reviewed, widely respected, award-winning experts in their fields of research.

Most scientists don't deny race at all; they simply replace the word "race" with more politically correct terms, such as "population groups" or "clines", and so on. Seems familiar?

The truth of the matter is, the scientific community hasn't disproved race at all, it's one of the areas of most contention in the discipline. Most scientists will tell you that "not enough research has been done on the subject to know one way or another" (when in actuality there has been), then you'll find a minority of scientists who say that race, does indeed, exist and opposing minority which contends that it doesn't.

The reason why most anthropology textbooks, for example, get away with saying race "doesn't exist" is because they invariably set up an outdated straw man as a definition for race. However, after burning that straw man and claiming that, as a result, race is merely a "social construct," they always subsequently make mention of the bell curve theory and sociobiology, and state how "controversial" race remains in the academic community today.

Slightly over half of all biological/physical anthropologists today believe in the traditional view that human races are biologically valid and real. Furthermore, they tend to see nothing wrong in defining and naming the different populations of Homo sapiens. The other half of the biological anthropology community believes either that the traditional racial categories for humankind are arbitrary and meaningless, or that at a minimum there are better ways to look at human variation than through the 'racial lens.'


Is it wrong wishing things were different? Is it wrong disagreeing with natures unjustness?

What about reality?

What about the the truth?

What about the obvious?

Sorry to break it down to you , but race exists BIOLOGICALLY. Go on and ignore all of those to make yourself feel better. See, human beings are not equal. "ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS"

The fact that a racial denier is happier than a believer is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.
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Re: Racism in South East Asia
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2010, 04:00:15 pm »
That is such a huge claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I suspect this belief has come into people because of the human genome project.  They state "All human races are 99.99 % alike, so racial differences are genetically insignificant." The proof that they claim is unfortunately no proof at all. Everybody knows that in genetics, a difference of 0.1% is an ENORMOUS difference,

Comparing all the sources it has been found that the percentage difference is 99.5% not 99.99%. This 99.9 % thing is due to source error.

But if we compare it like that,Chimpanzees are 96% to 98% similar to humans, depending on how it is calculated.

- Cats have 90% of homologous genes with humans, 82% with dogs, 80% with cows, 79% with chimpanzees, 69% with rats and 67% with mice.

- Cows are 80% genetically similar to humans

- 75% of mouse genes have equivalents in humans , 90% of the mouse genome could be lined up with a region on the human genome 99% of mouse genes turn out to have analogues in humans (source)

- The fruit fly (Drosophila) shares about 60% of its DNA with humans

- About 60% of chicken genes correspond to a similar human gene.

- Bananas share about 50% to 70 % of its DNA with humans.  (So are we bananas?)


A difference of only 0.1% therefore shows that people will have around three million base pairs in their DNA.(Keep in mind that it's about 0.5%) Yes, three million. And remember that it only takes ONE to turn an otherwise healthy human into someone who has Progeria for example. Just a single error out of more than one million base pairs prevented it from working at first. At that level, a very little can mean an awful lot.

Also Human genome project never proved that races don't exist. It proved that every human being on the planet is a human being. This point is irrefutable. You're just trying to say that because we're all the same SPECIES that there are no separate RACES. If that was the case, we'd all be one color with all the same traits...etc...etc. I don't understand why it is so hard to wrap one's mind around the fact that because you can determine differences between different populations, race is real.

Every other species on the planet has group variations WITHIN the species, yet current liberal dogma insists that human beings are an exception to this rule. As far as biology is concerned, putting human beings on a pedestal apart from other animals is about as "non scientific" as you can get.

If you dug up bones from hundreds/thousands of years ago, you could determine what the race of the skeleton was. If race isn't real, how is this possible? If science can determine this, how is there no genetic basis for race?And a dna test can determine someone’s racial ancestry even though race doesn't exist? Lol

Race is a "social construct" in the sense that, the classification is man made - as are all classifications. One can argue gender does not exist on the same ground one argues race does not exist - you won't get far with either. Race is real, to the extent any other genetic classification is real.

Bear in mind that race is perhaps the most polarizing and sensitive issue in the scientific community today and as such, it's very difficult for people in academia to present their unfettered opinion on the subject without serious repercussions (i.e., the Dr. James Watson controversy surrounding his views on Africa).

Most physical anthropologists, population geneticists, behavior geneticists, and psychologists who wish to keep their reputations untarnished understand that they have to do the ceremonial "race denial" at the beginning of their published works involving race; if they fail to do this, they face mass condemnation (as James Watson did). However, there do exist scientists who won't be intimated by the political climate and will openly state the biological validity of race. These people aren't crazed lunatics on the fringes of the scientific establishment, but rather published/peer-reviewed, widely respected, award-winning experts in their fields of research.

Most scientists don't deny race at all; they simply replace the word "race" with more politically correct terms, such as "population groups" or "clines", and so on. Seems familiar?

The truth of the matter is, the scientific community hasn't disproved race at all, it's one of the areas of most contention in the discipline. Most scientists will tell you that "not enough research has been done on the subject to know one way or another" (when in actuality there has been), then you'll find a minority of scientists who say that race, does indeed, exist and opposing minority which contends that it doesn't.

The reason why most anthropology textbooks, for example, get away with saying race "doesn't exist" is because they invariably set up an outdated straw man as a definition for race. However, after burning that straw man and claiming that, as a result, race is merely a "social construct," they always subsequently make mention of the bell curve theory and sociobiology, and state how "controversial" race remains in the academic community today.

Slightly over half of all biological/physical anthropologists today believe in the traditional view that human races are biologically valid and real. Furthermore, they tend to see nothing wrong in defining and naming the different populations of Homo sapiens. The other half of the biological anthropology community believes either that the traditional racial categories for humankind are arbitrary and meaningless, or that at a minimum there are better ways to look at human variation than through the 'racial lens.'


Is it wrong wishing things were different? Is it wrong disagreeing with natures unjustness?

What about reality?

What about the the truth?

What about the obvious?

Sorry to break it down to you , but race exists BIOLOGICALLY. Go on and ignore all of those to make yourself feel better. See, human beings are not equal. "ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS"

The fact that a racial denier is happier than a believer is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.


Impressive.  :)

Is that you?  :P

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Re: Racism in South East Asia
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2010, 04:12:34 pm »
That is such a huge claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I suspect this belief has come into people because of the human genome project.  They state "All human races are 99.99 % alike, so racial differences are genetically insignificant." The proof that they claim is unfortunately no proof at all. Everybody knows that in genetics, a difference of 0.1% is an ENORMOUS difference,

Comparing all the sources it has been found that the percentage difference is 99.5% not 99.99%. This 99.9 % thing is due to source error.

But if we compare it like that,Chimpanzees are 96% to 98% similar to humans, depending on how it is calculated.

- Cats have 90% of homologous genes with humans, 82% with dogs, 80% with cows, 79% with chimpanzees, 69% with rats and 67% with mice.

- Cows are 80% genetically similar to humans

- 75% of mouse genes have equivalents in humans , 90% of the mouse genome could be lined up with a region on the human genome 99% of mouse genes turn out to have analogues in humans (source)

- The fruit fly (Drosophila) shares about 60% of its DNA with humans

- About 60% of chicken genes correspond to a similar human gene.

- Bananas share about 50% to 70 % of its DNA with humans.  (So are we bananas?)


A difference of only 0.1% therefore shows that people will have around three million base pairs in their DNA.(Keep in mind that it's about 0.5%) Yes, three million. And remember that it only takes ONE to turn an otherwise healthy human into someone who has Progeria for example. Just a single error out of more than one million base pairs prevented it from working at first. At that level, a very little can mean an awful lot.

Also Human genome project never proved that races don't exist. It proved that every human being on the planet is a human being. This point is irrefutable. You're just trying to say that because we're all the same SPECIES that there are no separate RACES. If that was the case, we'd all be one color with all the same traits...etc...etc. I don't understand why it is so hard to wrap one's mind around the fact that because you can determine differences between different populations, race is real.

Every other species on the planet has group variations WITHIN the species, yet current liberal dogma insists that human beings are an exception to this rule. As far as biology is concerned, putting human beings on a pedestal apart from other animals is about as "non scientific" as you can get.

If you dug up bones from hundreds/thousands of years ago, you could determine what the race of the skeleton was. If race isn't real, how is this possible? If science can determine this, how is there no genetic basis for race?And a dna test can determine someone’s racial ancestry even though race doesn't exist? Lol

Race is a "social construct" in the sense that, the classification is man made - as are all classifications. One can argue gender does not exist on the same ground one argues race does not exist - you won't get far with either. Race is real, to the extent any other genetic classification is real.

Bear in mind that race is perhaps the most polarizing and sensitive issue in the scientific community today and as such, it's very difficult for people in academia to present their unfettered opinion on the subject without serious repercussions (i.e., the Dr. James Watson controversy surrounding his views on Africa).

Most physical anthropologists, population geneticists, behavior geneticists, and psychologists who wish to keep their reputations untarnished understand that they have to do the ceremonial "race denial" at the beginning of their published works involving race; if they fail to do this, they face mass condemnation (as James Watson did). However, there do exist scientists who won't be intimated by the political climate and will openly state the biological validity of race. These people aren't crazed lunatics on the fringes of the scientific establishment, but rather published/peer-reviewed, widely respected, award-winning experts in their fields of research.

Most scientists don't deny race at all; they simply replace the word "race" with more politically correct terms, such as "population groups" or "clines", and so on. Seems familiar?

The truth of the matter is, the scientific community hasn't disproved race at all, it's one of the areas of most contention in the discipline. Most scientists will tell you that "not enough research has been done on the subject to know one way or another" (when in actuality there has been), then you'll find a minority of scientists who say that race, does indeed, exist and opposing minority which contends that it doesn't.

The reason why most anthropology textbooks, for example, get away with saying race "doesn't exist" is because they invariably set up an outdated straw man as a definition for race. However, after burning that straw man and claiming that, as a result, race is merely a "social construct," they always subsequently make mention of the bell curve theory and sociobiology, and state how "controversial" race remains in the academic community today.

Slightly over half of all biological/physical anthropologists today believe in the traditional view that human races are biologically valid and real. Furthermore, they tend to see nothing wrong in defining and naming the different populations of Homo sapiens. The other half of the biological anthropology community believes either that the traditional racial categories for humankind are arbitrary and meaningless, or that at a minimum there are better ways to look at human variation than through the 'racial lens.'


Is it wrong wishing things were different? Is it wrong disagreeing with natures unjustness?

What about reality?

What about the the truth?

What about the obvious?

Sorry to break it down to you , but race exists BIOLOGICALLY. Go on and ignore all of those to make yourself feel better. See, human beings are not equal. "ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS"

The fact that a racial denier is happier than a believer is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.
This was STUNNING MAN.

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Re: Racism in South East Asia
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2010, 05:32:49 pm »
Thanks Alpha and Arsenal.  ::)

Don't hate me when I say most of my debate experience comes from debating religion. :P

The 'Darwinism' you mention in this paragraph is pure ignorance because for it to fit the bill you have to assume that homo sapiens have gone through further evolution as different races, when in REALITY there is no evidence of this.
 

Social darwinism. Please understand the context.


The selfish gene is a different thing altogether and it's out of context. People are more likely to survive if they make efficient use of the resources available to them ignoring their petty prejudices aside, and thankfully that's the way we seem to be heading towards.


It seems you and I read different books. If not , wikipedia doesn't summarise the book properly.

Selfish gene - serving their own interests. Sacrificing themselves to protect the lives of its kin- "Kin selection"

Equals to Racism on a smaller scale.
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« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2010, 04:08:32 am »
Thanks ~~~~~ and ~~~~~~~~.  ::)


That wasn't a typographical mistake.  
Dude, you don't shoot someone who holds a gun.

I can start with the P-thing too.  ::)
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Re: Racism in South East Asia
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2010, 10:16:15 am »
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Re: Racism in South East Asia
« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2010, 01:48:59 pm »
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That is such a huge claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I suspect this belief has come into people because of the human genome project.  They state "All human races are 99.99 % alike, so racial differences are genetically insignificant." The proof that they claim is unfortunately no proof at all. Everybody knows that in genetics, a difference of 0.1% is an ENORMOUS difference,

Comparing all the sources it has been found that the percentage difference is 99.5% not 99.99%. This 99.9 % thing is due to source error.

But if we compare it like that,Chimpanzees are 96% to 98% similar to humans, depending on how it is calculated.

- Cats have 90% of homologous genes with humans, 82% with dogs, 80% with cows, 79% with chimpanzees, 69% with rats and 67% with mice.

- Cows are 80% genetically similar to humans

- 75% of mouse genes have equivalents in humans , 90% of the mouse genome could be lined up with a region on the human genome 99% of mouse genes turn out to have analogues in humans (source)

- The fruit fly (Drosophila) shares about 60% of its DNA with humans

- About 60% of chicken genes correspond to a similar human gene.

- Bananas share about 50% to 70 % of its DNA with humans.  (So are we bananas?)


A difference of only 0.1% therefore shows that people will have around three million base pairs in their DNA.(Keep in mind that it's about 0.5%) Yes, three million. And remember that it only takes ONE to turn an otherwise healthy human into someone who has Progeria for example. Just a single error out of more than one million base pairs prevented it from working at first. At that level, a very little can mean an awful lot.

Also Human genome project never proved that races don't exist. It proved that every human being on the planet is a human being. This point is irrefutable. You're just trying to say that because we're all the same SPECIES that there are no separate RACES. If that was the case, we'd all be one color with all the same traits...etc...etc. I don't understand why it is so hard to wrap one's mind around the fact that because you can determine differences between different populations, race is real.

Every other species on the planet has group variations WITHIN the species, yet current liberal dogma insists that human beings are an exception to this rule. As far as biology is concerned, putting human beings on a pedestal apart from other animals is about as "non scientific" as you can get.

If you dug up bones from hundreds/thousands of years ago, you could determine what the race of the skeleton was. If race isn't real, how is this possible? If science can determine this, how is there no genetic basis for race?And a dna test can determine someone’s racial ancestry even though race doesn't exist? Lol

Race is a "social construct" in the sense that, the classification is man made - as are all classifications. One can argue gender does not exist on the same ground one argues race does not exist - you won't get far with either. Race is real, to the extent any other genetic classification is real.

Bear in mind that race is perhaps the most polarizing and sensitive issue in the scientific community today and as such, it's very difficult for people in academia to present their unfettered opinion on the subject without serious repercussions (i.e., the Dr. James Watson controversy surrounding his views on Africa).

Most physical anthropologists, population geneticists, behavior geneticists, and psychologists who wish to keep their reputations untarnished understand that they have to do the ceremonial "race denial" at the beginning of their published works involving race; if they fail to do this, they face mass condemnation (as James Watson did). However, there do exist scientists who won't be intimated by the political climate and will openly state the biological validity of race. These people aren't crazed lunatics on the fringes of the scientific establishment, but rather published/peer-reviewed, widely respected, award-winning experts in their fields of research.

Most scientists don't deny race at all; they simply replace the word "race" with more politically correct terms, such as "population groups" or "clines", and so on. Seems familiar?

The truth of the matter is, the scientific community hasn't disproved race at all, it's one of the areas of most contention in the discipline. Most scientists will tell you that "not enough research has been done on the subject to know one way or another" (when in actuality there has been), then you'll find a minority of scientists who say that race, does indeed, exist and opposing minority which contends that it doesn't.

The reason why most anthropology textbooks, for example, get away with saying race "doesn't exist" is because they invariably set up an outdated straw man as a definition for race. However, after burning that straw man and claiming that, as a result, race is merely a "social construct," they always subsequently make mention of the bell curve theory and sociobiology, and state how "controversial" race remains in the academic community today.

Slightly over half of all biological/physical anthropologists today believe in the traditional view that human races are biologically valid and real. Furthermore, they tend to see nothing wrong in defining and naming the different populations of Homo sapiens. The other half of the biological anthropology community believes either that the traditional racial categories for humankind are arbitrary and meaningless, or that at a minimum there are better ways to look at human variation than through the 'racial lens.'


Is it wrong wishing things were different? Is it wrong disagreeing with natures unjustness?

What about reality?

What about the the truth?

What about the obvious?

Sorry to break it down to you , but race exists BIOLOGICALLY. Go on and ignore all of those to make yourself feel better. See, human beings are not equal. "ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS"

The fact that a racial denier is happier than a believer is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.
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Lol this is rubbish. You are basically providing information someone would learn in a grade 10 biology class as 'evidence'. I can't be bothered to explain all the points bit by bit, maybe in a few days.

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It seems you and I read different books. If not , wikipedia doesn't summarise the book properly.

Selfish gene - serving their own interests. Sacrificing themselves to protect the lives of its kin- "Kin selection"

Equals to Racism on a smaller scale.

Kin doesn't equal to race. It means looking out for your own, and it doesn't always have to be for people of your own ethnicity. Ethnicity maybe one of the categories but you can't isolate it as the only way in which the 'selfish gene' works. I suggest you read a book that wasn't written during the time Darwin was around as many advances has been made.

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« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2010, 05:26:42 pm »
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Lol this is rubbish. You are basically providing information someone would learn in a grade 10 biology class as 'evidence'. I can't be bothered to explain all the points bit by bit, maybe in a few days.


10th grade science is enough to ward off ignorant people like you who has provided no information, no evidence, just ignorant wild claims and refusal to accept reality.  ;D Why don't you try and debunk this 10th grade science ? Can't?

And from my experience, it's the multicultural cities in the world that are the ones that flourish the most.


So you call this an evidence huh?  :D Your belief has NOTHING to do with reality.

I can provide lots of evidence (Peer reviewed papers, etc) but I'll wait and see what you'll do first. Cheers
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« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2010, 10:50:45 pm »
What about social darwinism?
This has a lot to do with race.
Chinese/Indian people are damned good businesspeople but Africans/South Americans are not.
This must have a genetic origin in part cos Africans and South Americans in rich countries dont become nearly as successful in business even after several generations.
Behaviour is determined by genes in part - see how identical twins separated at birth may pursue identical careers, marry almost identical people, like the same food, films, books etc.

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« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2010, 06:08:55 pm »
What about social darwinism?
This has a lot to do with race.
Chinese/Indian people are damned good businesspeople but Africans/South Americans are not.
This must have a genetic origin in part cos Africans and South Americans in rich countries dont become nearly as successful in business even after several generations.
Behaviour is determined by genes in part - see how identical twins separated at birth may pursue identical careers, marry almost identical people, like the same food, films, books etc.

You can't stereotype the whole population of the world's second largest continent based on the thought that Africans aren't good businessmen, especially when it is an established fact that we are all descended with origins from that continent, AND the fact that there is more genetic variation between Africans themselves than Africans and some other ethnicity. (source:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30502963/).

The reason that African economies are so far behind is because of lack of proper leadership in the time it was required the most, corruption and possibly cultural differences. One reason that Indians or Chinese people are better business people can be explained by the effect of nature vs. nurture, which pretty much also sums up the whole issue about the differences between the races. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_versus_nurture

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Re: Racism in South East Asia
« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2010, 06:16:19 pm »
10th grade science is enough to ward off ignorant people like you who has provided no information, no evidence, just ignorant wild claims and refusal to accept reality.  ;D Why don't you try and debunk this 10th grade science ? Can't?

So you call this an evidence huh?  :D Your belief has NOTHING to do with reality.

I can provide lots of evidence (Peer reviewed papers, etc) but I'll wait and see what you'll do first. Cheers

This is rubbish because there are mistakes in your sources and your pseudo-intellectualism is laughable. There is 99.5% similarity in the genetic structure between you and your, say, friend you are not related to, and this doesn't prove anything. There are still advancements being made regarding the topic and the fact that you think you understand all of it is nothing but ignorance. Since you seem to be so fond of citing sources (which I'm sure is just wikipedia) read this and tell me what you understand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_variation