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Abortion, Is it the right thing?
Alpha:
My Mum went to bath. :P Am waiting.
--- Quote from: Ari Ben Canaan on September 19, 2010, 12:49:21 pm ---It is easier to destroy than create.
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Now, that is philosophy. :P
--- Quote ---It does, I will agree, fail at times. No, rap* is a social iniquity - something that affects the community. I dont see how allowing abortion will make it easier for any person to become rap* victim. Are you suggesting people will welcome being rap*d, knowing they can simply abort the child later ?
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Rap* affects the community. But BEFORE it goes out to society, it remains with the victim and the offender. How many people you think reveal they have been rap*d?
Yes, I'm referring to using abortion as a contraception after penetration. You can't legalize it for a minority, if it's legal, it will be for everyone. You can't stop people from making an abuse of legally accessible assets.
--- Quote ---Kissing and holding hands dont cause lasting emotional trauma, physical pain and a child. These things remain with you forever.
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In bold, before it DID. It's only now that we take these things lightly. Before, the mindset was completely different.
--- Quote ---I cant comment on the matter, the child was lucky. She knows very well she could have died.
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She knew for sure her second option was the certain death of the child.
--- Quote ---At a few days after conception a 'child' is simply a ball of cells. No brain, no heart, no nerves - nothing. No pain can be felt, no loss incurred.
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I heard that often. Temme, if something has no life, then what are we terminating by having recourse to abortion?
Alpha:
--- Quote from: Garfield on September 19, 2010, 01:07:15 pm ---Yes they kept having kids because they had premature babies that would die most of the times.
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Ah no... The women you're talking about having premature frail kids didn't have good sanitary conditions, and proper nutrition, some people were extremely poor in those times.
But others did it... They did prove it's possible, and you can live it through.
--- Quote ---I know of girls who were rap*d and have made a good life. You don't lose out life when you're rap*d. You don't remain bound to pain and raise a child you think is a burden. You won't feel good about it, nor will the child.
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How can you be sure what will affect the child more? Being rejected of careless people, or being deprived of life?
A child is a burden? Why is the child a 'burden'? That's very selfish indeed. Because victims of rape emerge frustrated, they have to look for an easy prey to remove their frustration and anger on?
The child is the easiest prey, isn't it?
Where are we going? What are we making of this world? Instead of 'aborting' the criminals, the rapists, if possible crime out of our societies, we have to have recourse to camouflaged infanticide to keep the streets 'clean'?
elemis:
--- Quote from: ~Alpha on September 19, 2010, 01:12:33 pm ---I heard that often. Temme, if something has no life, then what are we terminating by having recourse to abortion?
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I/we would be destroying what has the potential to have life, but doesnt yet possess it.
Like I said, all you lose is a ball of matter. A cynical way of looking at it, but it is realistic.
I'll comment on the rest later. Ta ta.
Freaked12:
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THIS IS THE FOURTH OF ITS KIND OR FIFTH IN THE SPACE OF 4 MONTHS.
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elemis:
--- Quote from: ~Alpha on September 19, 2010, 01:12:33 pm ---Now, that is philosophy. :P
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No, that is fact. ;)
--- Quote from: ~Alpha on September 19, 2010, 01:12:33 pm ---Rap* affects the community. But BEFORE it goes out to society, it remains with the victim and the offender. How many people you think reveal they have been rap*d?
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I agree to an extent. However, who is eventually paying the cost of conducting a police investigation, assigning a psychiatrist to the victim, setting up a trial etc ? The taxpayer i.e. you and me. When a victim DOESNT report the felony the cost is even larger since the felon will still roam the streets attacking innocent people.
Hence, no matter what; society still bears a negative externality.
--- Quote from: ~Alpha on September 19, 2010, 01:12:33 pm ---Yes, I'm referring to using abortion as a contraception after penetration. You can't legalize it for a minority, if it's legal, it will be for everyone. You can't stop people from making an abuse of legally accessible assets.
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Although, people will always try and get illegal abortions, countries have enforced laws where abortion is only available to rape victims after review i.e. only a minority have access.
--- Quote from: ~Alpha on September 19, 2010, 01:12:33 pm ---In bold, before it DID. It's only now that we take these things lightly. Before, the mindset was completely different.
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I dont know what country you speak of, but any logical person can see there is a huge gap between the damage cause by kissing a woman and raping her. So you have no argument to speak of.
--- Quote from: ~Alpha on September 19, 2010, 01:12:33 pm ---She knew for sure her second option was the certain death of the child.
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What makes you so sure the parents didnt force the choice upon the child ?
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